taekwondo is in my mind to choose but some people say its a weak martial art so im doughting it, need advice.|||Depends how you train, as a former boxer boxing is full contact, Tkd may not be, but they specialize in kicking techniques and since the leg is longer than the arm I%26#039;d favour that ,as in stop kicking whether to the abdomen or the knees or if able and confident the head.
Best wishes :)***|||i do taekwondo and used to do boxing when i was younger. both are very good but i prefer tkd. tkd is not weak if taught properly, there are two types of tkd one is WTF tkd which is the one that you see in the olympics. this involves alot of high and flashy kicks and not many punches, this is the one that is mostly known about and is assumed to be weak. the other type is ITF tkd, this is the one that i do and it is much more combat orientated similar to kick boxing . punches and kicks are allowed anywhere above ther waist and is done at full contact. also you learn throws, take downs, joint locks aswell as the punching, kicking , kneeing, elbowing and low kicking techneiques that you would need in a street fight for self defence. WTF tkd might contain these but im not sure as i dont practice this.
there is alot of ignorance when it comes to tkd, people look on you tube or at the oylimpics and think that what they see in tkd in its intiraty, when actually its only a fraction of what tkd actually is. when i first started tkd i thought that my boxing experience would mean that sparring you be easy for me. ok the boxing experience helped but i wasnt prepared for being hit from 4 pionts and not the 2 that i was used to. the kicking part was very good to learn aswell as kicks are very powerfull and a low kick to the knee in a street fight will suprise the attacker and hurt them alot, may even break the knee. the joint locks and throws are very good aswell for preparing yourself when an attacker grabs you.
both are good though and its more important that you enjoy the art that your doing because it will take alot of dedication to be able to learn an art efficiently enough to defend yourself you cant just take a few classes then expect instant results it takes time and if you dont enjoy what your doing then you wont take it in. go to a few clubs and see what one you prefer . and dont listen to the people that say one art is better than another or another art is weak because these people are just ignorant its the fighter not the style which wins a fight. tony barada did tkd and used his knowledge to win 6 world kick boxing titles. also there are other good mma fighters who use tkd such as serkan yilmaz, lukasz jurkowski and cung lee who has a black belt in tkd.
i hope this helps and good luck and remember to follow your OWN mind when choosing what one to do.
omg so many stupid people who coment who dont know f%*k all about martial arts. tkd no punches to the head what are you on about you CAN punch to the head in tkd. when you actually do a full contact martial art you will see that boxing is weaker due to the fact that it is one dimentional and does use any kicks, throws or use of the powerfull elbows and knees like tkd does!!!!!!|||boxing-
without knowing any info about a specific dojo or boxing gym, i can tell you that on average boxing will give you realistic training tkd will not.
tkd might make a good supplement even if you train at a place that doesn%26#039;t train realistically- but you should get a basic background and learn about what realistic training is, and what someone coming after you with controlled aggression (and skill) is.
most tkd gyms train for a specific ruleset- such rulesets are very very unrealistic in crucial ways-
such as not permitting punches to the head, counter punching and breaking upon scoring contact and the %26quot;first to hit wins%26quot;.
this leads to your training consisting of dangerous tactics you would not otherwise employ since you need to protect yourself.
boxing on the other hand does not limit any of that and the mere exclusion of kicks and legs is not an issue since it can be trained later but at least you have an idea what a real person coming after you is due to boxing sparring-
also as far as hands go- boxing is second to none to develop punching power and hand skills in striking.
yes- there are other arts you can take to add on- but boxing is hands down the better option of the two-
if you like you can train in a semi-legit tkd gym later even to learn kicking technique but overall IMO- a muai thai or sanda gym would be a better bet as it would save you the time of %26quot;putting it together%26quot; yourself and help you develop additional skills.
again- if you can find a tkd gym that trains realistically, then go for it- but needle in a haystack is the operative term here.
as for tkd vs. grappling?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2y8b5QgX...
EDIT:
MMA (as i think you mean the modern day organizations putting on mma fights) is not as %26quot;close to a real fight as you can get%26quot; vale tudo rules and early ufc before regulation was %26quot;as close to a real fight as you can get%26quot;-
yes i%26#039;m bieng a pain in the ***- i know what you meant. and many people touted in modern day mma were upset abotu teh regulation of it as it was %26quot;not real%26quot; anymore-
ironically, these are the same people that many anti-mma people claim are not %26quot;real%26quot;. (i think you know who i%26#039;m talking about)|||I%26#039;m am a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, and, by itself, it is a bit weak as far a self defense goes. However, my instructor is also a black belt in Hapkido (sp? A defensive martial art), Judo (throws and grappling), and jujitsu (pressure points) so I get a lot of that thrown into the mix. As for boxing, you get hand techniques from tae kwon do along with a lot of other things too. If you are looking to defend yourself,though, my instructor also offers MMA (mixed martial arts) and kickboxing classes, and they are awesome, and make you feel like you could avoid getting your butt handed to you. Hope this helps.|||it depends;
are yo taking these lessons for sport/exercise/fun
or a re you looking for some real life application? (:D)
If you must use it in a fight, boxing is probably your best bet. You spar, punches to the face, conditioning, and everything.
Taekwondo is dangerous too, but like somebody mentioned, look out for the good organizations or teachers, especially if their ITF. It%26#039;s the closest you%26#039;ll get to the real taekwondo they used to teach, not this watered down sport.
Of course, it all comes down to practice. Tae kwon do and boxing both have the same exercises applicable.
but still, charging into your enemy%26#039;s defenses works better than manipulating the dude from the outside with kicks.|||Depends on what you want from the martial art- defense, health,tournaments? I would say Taekwondo for all around use. Did a bit of tournament training with some others in school- the local former boxing champ was matched against me a couple times and didn%26#039;t think he needed fighting cup against old crock- took him a couple times to learn triple punch boxing toward head wouldn%26#039;t stop back kick to groin. Point for foot work. Boxing can still be a good choice for defense and sport- but the lack of lower body targeting and lack of offenseive foot training sort of makes it incomplete. Kata/heien forms good health training missing in boxing.|||i don%26#039;t know what kind of body type you have so i can%26#039;t say for sure
i%26#039;m 5%26#039;11%26quot;, 198lbs, and i prefer stand up and striking
so i primarily practice boxing, cross train with colleagues in any martial art, more the better for exp
if you%26#039;re young and unsure, check out what you like, go to both. i tried boxing at a young age, liked and stuck with it. but that don%26#039;t mean i didn%26#039;t try other like tkd, judo, mma, jujitsu, wushu, wing chun, wrestling etc. some i didn%26#039;t like, some i found useful. also the more exposed you are to different fighting styles, you know how to deal w/ it when you face similar technqiues
anyway, if you want a dynamic work out? go for tkd. it%26#039;s teaches a good mix of kicks, straight, roundhouse, back, and punches, but it%26#039;s not for self defense. it is a SPORT. one rule they have is: NO HITTING THE FACE. so that pretty much takes out any realism of a street fight. there are tkd practitioners at our mma and their training is sub par. if you close the distance quick against a kicker, he no longer has the option of kicking, and many tkd don%26#039;t know what to do in that scenario b/c they don%26#039;t train for it
however, tkd is good for practicing kicks b/c the rules limit your options so you exclusively kick. like weightlifters exclusive do bicep curls to train their bicep|||It actually has more of a reputation for being taught badly. There is a huge difference.
Check out the TKD schools in your area and try them out. If there are more than one you should be able to see the difference. Make sure the instructor is qualified through the kukkiwon (central organization governing taekwondo across the world).
I also recommend that you check out any other martial arts or boxing gym in your area. Try them all out and get a feel for what they are like and which you will enjoy most. Once again, find the best teacher you can because their guidance will make the difference.|||Personally I would do boxing, basically because of my own body type, attitude and preferences.
But you%26#039;re not me. Taekwondo is in your mind to choose, so choose it. It isn%26#039;t a weak martial art. It is a martial art.
There%26#039;s a lot of bs in this thread from people saying TKD is pants, and some saying that it%26#039;s the greatest martial art of all time. The best martial art is the one you enjoy. Go for it.|||A friend of mine did taekwondo for years and years. He was a bit of a fanatic actually... then one night he got into a fight with a guy in a pub who%26#039;d been doing boxing for only a few months and he got seriously battered! For this boxer..my friend was just another opponent and he was quite use to being hit. For my friend..it was his first proper fight. Boxing makes you incredibly tough. If you think being hit on the nose hurts...try it 6 times in a row.
(he told me later that he%26#039;d found it virtually impossible to apply any taekwondo once this fight really kicked off and got dirty. It was about as much use as ballroom dancing)..|||Honestly, it%26#039;s totally up to you in which art you choose to do. Both have their advantages and disadvantages, what really matters in the end is how much to train and how dedicated you are.
I am biased towards Tae Kwon Do, but i do recognise that boxing has it%26#039;s pluses too. I%26#039;d like to dispell a myth that seems to have been propagated quite a bit in this section, Tae Kwon Do is by no means a weak art. There%26#039;s simply no such thing and as for strength and speed I have seen demonstrations which definately prove that Tae Kwon Do is lacking in neither. It%26#039;s true that the art in which I study (yes I said ART, I study under a traditional ITF affilate which has set principles and values which must be adhered to and there%26#039;s no point scoring so it;s an ART) is centred around kicks, but there%26#039;s certainly no shortage of effective hand techniques at your disposal which I use just as often if not more so in free sparring.
Another thing is what you see at the Olympics is WTF the sport version of the art and I can honestly tell you if I was to jump about like that in a sparring match in class I%26#039;d be floored and laughed at. What you learn in class (at least an ITF one from my knowledge) is nothing like what%26#039;s shown at those matches, most of the time at least one foot is firmly planted on the ground.
As for Tae Kwon Do being lacking in self defence techniques, it%26#039;s a bunch of bull. Every pattern you learn and every combination you memorise is there to use at your disposal when you%26#039;re in a fight. I don%26#039;t know about other clubs but there%26#039;s a point to one-step, three-step and free sparring not to mention all the self-defense techniques which have been developed. I know I%26#039;ve harped on but my point is essentially this do what you truly want to do and if you love it then stick with it, don%26#039;t let what anyone else tells you influence what you want to do. All that I%26#039;ve tried to do is give you an insight into what I%26#039;ve learned from the 5 years I%26#039;ve been doing Tae Kwon Do and bring balance to the argument. If you find Tae Kwon Do isn%26#039;t for you then it isn%26#039;t for you, boxing might not be for you either.
Just remember the right instructor will make all the difference, I swapped instructors about 2 years into my training and I%26#039;ve gotten the motivation I needed to push myself harder. The same applies for boxing, if your instructor is someone who gets you motivated and moving then stick with it :)|||They%26#039;re good, as long as you get busy with any form of mma, it%26#039;ll be a win win situation, you know.
You should see, which one interests you more, thats it.
Would you like to use your hands thus
punch more (boxing) or use your feet(taekwondo).
If you%26#039;ve already have the Taekwondo on your mind, go for that in which i would sincerely suggest that.|||Don%26#039;t listen to what people say about taekwondo if they don%26#039;t take it. Looking Down upon a martial art if you aren%26#039;t man enough to do it is like the 8th deadly sin (JK)
You should Take taekwondo. It is more useful than wrestling. You learn kicks, punches, flips, and life skills. You learn stuff that applies to real life.|||I think boxing. I do boxing and mixed martial arts myself, I have since the age of 14. Boxing develops you both physically and mentally, I am no way bad mouthing TWK I believe that if you get into bother u can apply what uve learnt in boxing, where as TWK it would be difficult. Kung Fu is the same, its am amazing art but the kicks are quite flicky, where as in boxing after a few months you develop strenght and muscles. You cold always try kickboxing? Dont go for the girly soft version tho as you learn nothing!!!
Mikey is right in what he says!!|||Boxing, I did TKD most of my life (age 4-14) and 90% of it went out the window when I started MMA, which is about as close to a real fight as you can get. Basically read what Mikey said, it%26#039;s totally right and I just wanted to confirm that he%26#039;s not the only one who thinks that.|||listen i have takin both and BOXING is the better one. i know this because you get used to contact, realistic contact. with tkd it is mostly slow powerful kicks, but in a fight you want fast kicks to the legs and punches. you should really take something that teaches you to grapple, i suggest jujitsu.|||tkd is mostly show, by show i mean flashy kicks and spinning kicks and crap, do boxing or muay thai for striking and for the single best for the street is krav maga|||No martial art is better than another. I myself would prefer TKD so I could train in kicks as well as punching, but Boxing would also be a great choice.|||TaeKwondo definately - there%26#039;s no way it%26#039;s a weak sport! It is linked to Thai boxing and there%26#039;s less chance you%26#039;re going to come home with cauliflower ears and teeth missing!|||Taekwondo weak? Please! Go to a full contact tournament and see who%26#039;s butts are being kicked. The Taekwondo people will be the ones at the trophy presentations.
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